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Марш-бросок на Приштину

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Марш-бросок на Приштину



  • Submitter
  • Submitted
    05/12/2020
  • Category
    WOG
  • Number of participants
    220
  • Year
    12.june.1999
  • Time for a mission
    120
  • Weather
    12:00 / sunny
  • Attack side win conditions
    Capture airport
  • Attack side vehicles
    2x Wildcat AH1 8 CAS
    7X MCV-80
    1X Land Rover
    1X Land Rover ambulance
    1x Chinook
  • Defense side win condiotions
    Defend airport
  • Defense Side technique
    5x BTR - 80
    3x BTR - 80A
    2X BMD - 2
    2X UAZ
    2X 120mm mortar
    Some metis
    Some igla
  • Mission features
  • Type
    WOG
  • Island
    Остров Напф
  • Mode
    Захват/оборона
  • WEST side
    BAF
  • EAST side
    RF - VDV
  • RESISTANSE side
  • Attack Side
    West
  • Defense Side
    East
  • Thermal sights mode
    Выключен / OFF

 

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I am confused right now...

Mission description says that year is 12.june.1991

Wiki link says that in reality the year was 12 June 1999

 

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@Avarax настоятельно рекомендую пересмотреть баланс. MCV-80 обладает рядом преимуществ по сравнению с БТР-80. Бронирование, более сильная оптика, вооружение. В этом виде для БТР-80 нет соперников своей категории, они обречены на :fpled:, а вот MCV-80 может уничтожить только ПТРК "Метис" и при  обстреле это не всегда возможно. Думаю имеет место заменить несколько БТР-80 на БТР-80А, для трезвой конкуренции с MCV-80, хотя бы рядом с зоной. 

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35 minutes ago, Sixor said:

I am confused right now...

Mission description says that year is 12.june.1991

Wiki link says that in reality the year was 12 June 1999

 

Yes i bad write on forum but inside mission is correct write 

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8 minutes ago, Oubi said:

@Avarax настоятельно рекомендую пересмотреть баланс. MCV-80 обладает рядом преимуществ по сравнению с БТР-80. Бронирование, более сильная оптика, вооружение. В этом виде для БТР-80 нет соперников своей категории, они обречены на :fpled:, а вот MCV-80 может уничтожить только ПТРК "Метис" и при  обстреле это не всегда возможно. Думаю имеет место заменить несколько БТР-80 на БТР-80А, для трезвой конкуренции с MCV-80, хотя бы рядом с зоной. 

I fully accept your argument, but there would be a problem with the fact that there was a shout from some toxic people that it was not according to what was there at the airport.

That's why I balanced it with the AT team, I didn't want to write it here again so that the given toxic people wouldn't write that it was op again. On the side is an at team with 3 metys and 9 missiles. And plus 2x bmd do you still think it's unbalanced?

I normally don't take it as digging or anything like that i whant know your opinion

Edited by Avarax

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1 минуту назад, Avarax сказал:

I fully accept your argument, but there would be a problem with the fact that there was a shout from some toxic people that it was not according to what was there at the airport.

That's why I balanced it with the AT team, I didn't want to write it here again so that the given toxic people wouldn't write that it was op again. On the side is an at team with 3 metys and 9 missiles. And plus 2x bmd do you still think it's unbalanced?

I normally don't take it as digging or anything like tha

Это лишь рекомендация, окончательное решение за тобой. Но наличие средство борьбы против MCV-80, не отменяет того что игроки на БТР-80 будут разочарованы своим коротким геймплеем.

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One thing to note, MCV-80 / FV510 that we currently have in files are the 40 mm Bofors versions and not the 30 mm Rarden (correct me if I am wrong) and so I would not go into much of the historical side of things and would rather see the mission more balanced @Avarax.

EDIT: The version is correct for the time, 30 mm Rarden with manual loading. I had no idea this version was added into the WOG addons.

Edited by Sixor

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1 hour ago, Oubi said:

Это лишь рекомендация, окончательное решение за тобой. Но наличие средство борьбы против MCV-80, не отменяет того что игроки на БТР-80 будут разочарованы своим коротким геймплеем.

Of course, I take it as your opinion. Well, I would see it at max 3 BTR-80A, but I'm still thinking about the overall balance.

1 hour ago, Sixor said:

One thing to note, MCV-80 / FV510 that we currently have in files are the 40 mm Bofors versions and not the 30 mm Rarden (correct me if I am wrong) and so I would not go into much of the historical side of things and would rather see the mission more balanced @Avarax.

I thing yes have 40mm but steal have 6 rounds and need reload 

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Общие пункты:
1. Неверное название ПБО
 

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2. Поставить войну с зелеными
3. Включить ручное управление погодой. Если должно быть отключено, то все в левый край
4. В  сводке назвать согласно требованиям
 

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5. Исправить ошибки в брифинге 
6. 2 условности противоречат друг другу.  Какие отделения ВДВ? Какие отделения Российская армия? Все описать, вплоть до того, какие отделения могут атаковать. (А 1-1)
 

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7. Если используется условность, то она должна проверятся скриптом. Совет: дать управление только пилотам. 
 

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8. Что означает эта условность? 
 

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9. Почему условности для британцев в кейсе русских?
 

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10. Почему ВООБЩЕ ВСЕ условности только в кейсе красных? Синие недостойны?
11. Убрать флаги после фризтайма. 
12. После истечения времени побеждают ЗЕЛЕНЫЕ. Что?
 

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13. Все медицинские ящики: убрать выдачу снаряжения и выдать через скф
14. Ladder half - даешь лестницы и отключаешь с ними взаимодействие...
14.1. Отключить подрыв бк у машин. 

Красные: 
15. Use of vanilla technology. 
 

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16. Убрать ВСЕ ремкомплекты из машин, где они не должны находится.  Инженеров у тебя нет=> считать кол-во ремок по этой формуле  *кол-во БМП* УМНОЖИТЬ 2= кол-во ремок на стороне. 

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17.  Структуры красных неправильные. В те когда не было броников 6Б23. В сборке есть броники из этой эпохи. 
18. У всех бтр-80 и бтр-80а убрать заднее колесо, для того чтобы не было РХС взаимодействия с ним и был обзор назад. Хочешь дополнительные колеса? добавь в эйс-карго
19. Назвать слоты ВС РФ правильно. Не помню, чтобы в армии рф были СИНЬЕРЫ. 
20. На всех русских с рюкзаками присутствуют ванильные рюкзаки. Поменять где нужно на сидоры, где нужно на рпг и где нужно на мед. сумку. В ящиках с пзрк и зушками можно оставить. 
21. У  КС есть 2 иглы и есть уаз. В отделении у него 3 медика=> ты превращаешь в 90 процентов случаев 3 медиков в рандом отряд с трубами. Это нарушает традиции игры. Сделать отдельно отделение  ПЗРК или переназвать медиков в кс

22. Откуда в 1999 году у РУССКОГО командира ВАНИЛЬНЫЙ дальномер и ЖПС? Аналогичное к фтл. 
 

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23. Аналогичный вопрос к снайперу
24. Бойцам в минометном выдать инструменты и карты. 2 мб не хватит
25. Убрать выдачу таблицы в миномете и выдать с помощью СКФ
26. Откуда у крюменов жпс?
27. Дай снайперу панамку или шлем. Синий берет слишком палевный. 
28. Все манипуляции с карго и аммо техники проводить под строкой локальности. И к чему выдавать техники бк больше, чем у нее есть ирл? Реализуй перезарядки, а не эту фигню. 
 

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29. В отделении 8 человек. В ящике 5 дымов. Кому не хватит запаски? Добавляй больше. 


Синие

30. Все варриоры приподнять над землей. 
31. Десант с пилотами НЕ ВЛЕЗАЮТ в технику
32. Сделать с ремками аналогично у русских. 
33. На все пистолеты выданы
ВАНИЛЬНЫЕ патроны 
34. Я прощелкал 2 десятка фотографий бритов в том конфликте и не увидел коллиматорных прицелов. Откуда они у тебя?

 

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35. Винтовка М110 была принята на вооружение в 2008 году. Откуда она у твоих британцев?
36. Почему у каждого 2 бойца жпс в 1999 году?
37. Убрать разноцветные дымы из снаряжение бойцов и дать им обычные. Цветных НЕ ДОЛЖНО быть больше в кол-ве чем белых, а белых у тебя 0


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1 час назад, Zwierdik сказал:

19. Назвать слоты ВС РФ правильно. Не помню, чтобы в армии рф были СИНЬЕРЫ. 

Это английская транскрипция "Старший стрелок", насколько я знаю Avarax использовал структуры которые я кидал отсюда: https://www.battleorder.org/vdv-footmobile-1986
Так что, если все названия на английском, то это ок.

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1. done

2.I don't understand why set it when there are red and blue. Please explain

3. Waves and wind are set but I see no reason to change that.The weather is off and the only change on the hand is waves and wind. I don't understand what you want. Please explain

4. If I could ask you to explain it next time, because what you want is so I don't have to research and bother someone from you to explain what you want.

5. OK

6.And here is the problem that is on your side but mine is logical. VDV is part of RF and before RF - VDV madnes wrote it to me at VDV RF but it is an exchange. For me, RF VDV is right because first of all it is about the country and VDV is a component.Therefore, all slots are soldiers of the Russian Federation in the VDV

7.done i delet that 

8.done

9.done

10. no i dont copy to blue

11. For what reason. It is as if drawn on that map so that everyone knows where to attack.

12. Change on red and VDV RF

13. I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that. Am I breaking any rules about this? If so, I'll fix it right away or is there some other reason why?

14. done

14-1- for what reason was it never done truthfully and I have no idea how?

15. But after the introduction of the igla crab, I thought it was a modified rocket that did not have a setting from vanilla. Madnes explained to me that I was wrong. The rocket was changed to the correct NOT vanilla version. We must all follow the rules. Thank you for reporting a serious error.

16. I delete one from Uaz.

17. I agree with that, but on the other hand, we do not have weapons for the BAF and their armor is not possible to do it 100% to answer. If I did one side after this picture, there would be an imbalance and fast killing of VDV RF, and that is not appropriate.

18. Ok done

19. There was a requirement to issue the right structures, so I do. Zampolit explained to you about it and yes it is from that side. So if you don't have any other better translation, please state what you think will be better.

20. I am aware of this, but as far as I know, both briefs and uniforms do not break the rules after 5-6 / 7/8, so it is possible to give them. Here it is true that this is how I see it. But if I'm wrong and it breaks the rules, I will change it right away.

21.*******************The box is not for their department, it's just a storage of ammunition that KS is going to give to soldiers. He structurally changed and gave KS-FTL-RIF-RIF-MED.I hope that I will see this requirement in others where you will check missions because the standards need to be met and everyone. Thank you for the warning I will remember in the future and if it is requested one by one must be requested after all :)

22.It was supposed to be binoculars but will be fixed on it. We don't have the GLONASS system in Arma 3, I'm sorry but I can't see it. Below I present a file of satellites that have served and have served for years

Uragan(1)1982–19851003+0

UraganA(1)1985–1986603+0

UraganB(2)1987–19886+6✝03+0

UraganV(3)1988–2005590[15]3+0

Now have only SQL and Crew

23. Mistake copy pase problem i fix that. 

24.OK

25 OK

26. GLONASS more good playing for people

27. ok

28.I don't know how to do it. For BTR it's actually possible and for BMD I fixed it to standard.

29.Everyone has a smokestack with them, but if you think it should be necessary i make that. 

30. The problem with textures is not that they are in the ground.Is standard snap position. 

31.fix

32,done.

33.done. The rules must be followed.

34. https://ria.ru/20190612/1555361933.html More in spoiler all have same optic and i give only some becos balanc . 

Spoiler

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35. As I mentioned, even the version of the rifles at BAF does not fit with what they had there because we don't have it in the choir, according to the page from Zampolit, I released as similar a weapon as possible.

 

36. I give only for crew and SQL ok 

37. You can explain ?

The edited version cannot be published until you write to me about answer my qvestion. It doesn't make sense to check it multiple times.

@Zwierdik

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3 минуты назад, Avarax сказал:

1. done

2.I don't understand why set it when there are red and blue. Please explain

3. Waves and wind are set but I see no reason to change that.The weather is off and the only change on the hand is waves and wind. I don't understand what you want. Please explain

4. If I could ask you to explain it next time, because what you want is so I don't have to research and bother someone from you to explain what you want.

5. OK

6.And here is the problem that is on your side but mine is logical. VDV is part of RF and before RF - VDV madnes wrote it to me at VDV RF but it is an exchange. For me, RF VDV is right because first of all it is about the country and VDV is a component.Therefore, all slots are soldiers of the Russian Federation in the VDV

7.done i delet that 

8.done

9.done

10. no i dont copy to blue

11. For what reason. It is as if drawn on that map so that everyone knows where to attack.

12. Change on red and VDV RF

13. I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that. Am I breaking any rules about this? If so, I'll fix it right away or is there some other reason why?

14. done

14-1- for what reason was it never done truthfully and I have no idea how?

15. But after the introduction of the igla crab, I thought it was a modified rocket that did not have a setting from vanilla. Madnes explained to me that I was wrong. The rocket was changed to the correct NOT vanilla version. We must all follow the rules. Thank you for reporting a serious error.

16. I delete one from Uaz.

17. I agree with that, but on the other hand, we do not have weapons for the BAF and their armor is not possible to do it 100% to answer. If I did one side after this picture, there would be an imbalance and fast killing of VDV RF, and that is not appropriate.

18. Ok done

19. There was a requirement to issue the right structures, so I do. Zampolit explained to you about it and yes it is from that side. So if you don't have any other better translation, please state what you think will be better.

20. I am aware of this, but as far as I know, both briefs and uniforms do not break the rules after 5-6 / 7/8, so it is possible to give them. Here it is true that this is how I see it. But if I'm wrong and it breaks the rules, I will change it right away.

21.*******************The box is not for their department, it's just a storage of ammunition that KS is going to give to soldiers. He structurally changed and gave KS-FTL-RIF-RIF-MED.I hope that I will see this requirement in others where you will check missions because the standards need to be met and everyone. Thank you for the warning I will remember in the future and if it is requested one by one must be requested after all :)

22.It was supposed to be binoculars but will be fixed on it. We don't have the GLONASS system in Arma 3, I'm sorry but I can't see it. Below I present a file of satellites that have served and have served for years

Uragan(1)1982–19851003+0

UraganA(1)1985–1986603+0

UraganB(2)1987–19886+6✝03+0

UraganV(3)1988–2005590[15]3+0

Now have only SQL and Crew

23. Mistake copy pase problem i fix that. 

24.OK

25 OK

26. GLONASS more good playing for people

27. ok

28.I don't know how to do it. For BTR it's actually possible and for BMD I fixed it to standard.

29.Everyone has a smokestack with them, but if you think it should be necessary i make that. 

30. The problem with textures is not that they are in the ground.Is standard snap position. 

31.fix

32,done.

33.done. The rules must be followed.

34. https://ria.ru/20190612/1555361933.html More in spoiler all have same optic and i give only some becos balanc . 

  Показать контент

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  Показать контент

 

 

35. As I mentioned, even the version of the rifles at BAF does not fit with what they had there because we don't have it in the choir, according to the page from Zampolit, I released as similar a weapon as possible.

 

36. I give only for crew and SQL ok 

37. You can explain ?

The edited version cannot be published until you write to me about answer my qvestion. It doesn't make sense to check it multiple times.

@Zwierdik

2. Если вдруг добавишь зеленых или технику зеленых, чтобы не было проблем на брифинге
3. Ветер будет вечно менять свое направление и силу
4. В требованиях написано что? ФРАКЦИЯ (Цвет, Атака) vs Фракция (Цвет, Оборона). Разрешение на английском языке есть? Я не вижу. 
6. Перепиши условности ВНЯТНО. Кто, что, когда может. 
11. Маркера имеют свойство МАСШТАБИРОВАТЬСЯ на карте и будут занимать обзор. 
13. 

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14.1. Лишняя и ненужная нагрузка на сервер. 
16. Ты должен удалить и из ВСЕХ машин и всех БТР. Правила не дураки писали. 
17. Ты делаешь отсылку на момент, который был ирл. Ты в описание миссии выкладываешь инфу по ней. Давай ты будешь соблюдать рамки своего же лора. 
20. Зачем выдавать ванильные рюкзаки, когда есть нормальные, которые и по каму подходят и по времени.
22. Запущенные пуски != работающая система. 
26. Запущенные пуски != работающая система. 
28. Не знаешь как делать? Не делай или попроси помощи у тех кто умеет. 
30. Сейчас варриоры входят немного в асфальт. Для избежания проблем, приподними. К чему эта упрямость?
34. И где прицелы Т-1? Дата создания прицела 2007 год. Пусть с железок стреляют. 
 

35. В сборке есть л85 с длинным стволом, которым вооружались тогда британцы. В чем проблема поменять? Не знаю...
37. У британцев есть только ЦВЕТНЫЕ. Добавить нужно БЕЛЫЕ хотя бы. 


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4. Not all is corect but in my understanding it is that RF is the name of all troops and VDV is a part of those troops so it's just about understanding ..

11.I want to leave them there, from my understanding, the commander will get a map where enemy units are highlighted, etc.

13. now undestend done

14.1 explained done

16. To KS squad add engeniers and riflmen delet

17- 20  I therefore agree with that. Replaced BTR-80A with BTR-80. Added 1xBMD added 2 metis shots. Another chinok added for the US. I leave the rupsaks to me, but the RFs are terrible, both in terms of appearance and balance with BAF, nothing will fit in them. But I would like if they spread to more things and then released them right away by chance you wouldn't be able to do it?And most importantly, the balance to the RF does not give as much to the BAF badpack

I'm sorry for the armor chestrig, but I'm not going to build a balance of missions and a gaming experience for reality. First of all, it is necessary to understand that the players will probably shit that one side will die on one ball and the other even after several. That is why I choose less evil. But if you have some info about the addon where these armors are, then I think it would be worth giving the crab to look at it or it could be integrated into wog colection.

22-26 - Even the blue and red side - the truncated gps now has only a commander and driver and the pilot should have no more. The same goes for binoculars.

28. Ok so next time I make a card for you to come. I still had a problem with the ammunition not loading in my truck. So far, this is as I wrote above.

30. When I tested it, it wasn't a problem, but I'll take your advice

34. Aha I already understand this is not optical optics has zoom.Done

35.  No. I didn't know it was a sniper rifle so I was looking for the best I could be. What exactly to write like this, what to put instead, how to write like this here like idiots?

37.done

@Zwierdik

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1 час назад, Avarax сказал:

@Zwierdik

When will the statement be corrected?

Когда будет время на проверку миссии. Просьба не торопить, от этого будет только хуже. 

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